Headless Demon ([info]von_doom) wrote,
@ 2004-11-03 09:52:00
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IT BEARS REPEATING

We don't kill slaves.


This is a rescue mission.



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[info]pot80
2004-11-03 03:19 pm UTC (link)
What do you mean, exactly?

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[info]von_doom
2004-11-03 04:03 pm UTC (link)
Okay, I'm only trying to put this into words here. I may not make sense, exactly.

The superhero is a projection of part of the American myth, that individuals can control their destiny and that the strong should protect the weak. Evil is not a force, it's a weakness. It can't be avenged or punished, it can only be resisted, within your own heart, by an act of will. To fight evil, you have to help evil people resist their own weakness.

I dunno, maybe I'm being a total flake.

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[info]pot80
2004-11-03 04:06 pm UTC (link)
No, you're right in the broad sense. The big problem here is that all of these people don't realize that they are being evil when they support Bush. They need to have this fact beaten into them. They need to be shamed and broken so that they can see it and fight it within themselves and others.

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[info]von_doom
2004-11-03 04:10 pm UTC (link)
They're already shamed and broken, that's what makes them vulnerable. They need to be protected, strengthened, encouraged.

I'm not telling you not to be angry, I'm telling you not to hate people. People of ill will, who wish you harm, deserve hatred, but the American people as an aggregate, even if they are ignorant haters themselves, do not mean you harm. They are scared and are forking over their political power to someone who says he can protect them. It makes sense to them when he says it. This is a fundamental historical process. It's been going on for thousands of years.

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[info]pot80
2004-11-03 04:16 pm UTC (link)
I never hold on to this hate for long. I'm not a grudgeful guy, for better or worse. I need to vent right now. I know you know what I mean.

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[info]von_doom
2004-11-03 04:18 pm UTC (link)
Okay, that's fair. It's scary for me, though.

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[info]zenith
2004-11-03 10:46 pm UTC (link)
the American people as an aggregate, even if they are ignorant haters themselves, do not mean you harm

I think the Bush faithful probably do mean Matthew harm: he's a pampered East Coast liberal intellectual who supports baby-killing, sodomy and rap music.

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[info]von_doom
2004-11-04 11:02 am UTC (link)
Yeah, because they're afraid of those things. They don't understand East Coast liberal etceteras. They think we mean them harm. Hating them back and wishing them harm doesn't resolve the situation. You have to give them room to realize what, in their hearts, they know: that we don't want to hurt them.

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[info]zenith
2004-11-04 06:07 pm UTC (link)
I'm sorry, Colin, but that's a nice idea that just doesn't work in practice. Look at the examples I chose. It doesn't matter if Matthew or myself or whoever doesn't want to hurt them. We support the killing of unborn children. We support the proliferation of gayness which might make children gay. The children must be protected!

I keep thinking about the "40% identify as born again" statistic, and I know born again. What they know in their hearts is Jesus. They don't hate Matthew or you or me. They love us, as does Jesus. And because they love us, they need to stop us from sinning. Anyway they can.

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[info]von_doom
2004-11-04 11:02 pm UTC (link)
And because they love us, they need to stop us from sinning. Anyway they can.

And you're saying... what?

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[info]flufeemunk
2004-11-08 12:16 am UTC (link)
He's saying that the Religious Right™ shares the same reasoning as you: every person has the capacity to be like me, so I shouldn't hate them, I should make them be like me. There is a reason that religions like Christianity and Islam behave the way they do. People like this believe from the bottom of their hearts that You Are Wrong, even if it is a double standard. Blind faith is what drives this determination, and is nigh impossible to undermine oftentimes. Christianity is full of safeguards to prevent the more fervent believers from doubting any teachings.

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[info]mrs_munt
2004-11-03 03:19 pm UTC (link)
How I love you.

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[info]blahflowers
2004-11-03 03:30 pm UTC (link)
Nice and smooth, darling.

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[info]roseseule
2004-11-03 04:04 pm UTC (link)
Best post EVER!

Nice and smooth. It won't last forever.

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[info]bearo
2004-11-03 04:22 pm UTC (link)
This is good, this is the attitude that gives me hope.

Hope is what I need. Give me hope!

You rock...

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[info]von_doom
2004-11-03 04:26 pm UTC (link)
That's funny, I'm just about the most cynical and jaded person I know. There's no hope, you just have to keep fighting.

The only revolution that means anything is the revolution within the self.

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[info]bearo
2004-11-03 04:32 pm UTC (link)
But there's hope that more people will realise that, changing the internal influences the external.

Hope is a dangerous thing to loose, they said so in "Lost" so it's got to be true.

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[info]johnnybadhair
2004-12-20 04:09 am UTC (link)
That is awesome.

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[info]pencilbreak
2005-01-02 07:22 am UTC (link)


Simon' carnale.

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[info]jonathankorman
2005-01-14 04:42 pm UTC (link)
Would you be good enough to have a look at the first image URL? I can't see the image, making this post very mysterious. Having read the interesting commentary, now I'm burning up with curiousity about what it contains.

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[info]olulabelle
2005-03-15 12:30 pm UTC (link)
Ditto...

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